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		<title>By: Liam Lawlor</title>
		<link>http://davemorin.com/blog/gin-television-and-the-social-surplus/comment-page-1/#comment-55668</link>
		<dc:creator>Liam Lawlor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 03:41:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the post. I&#039;ve been passing it around. And well said, Mark.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the post. I&#8217;ve been passing it around. And well said, Mark.</p>
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		<title>By: Improving the conversation &#124; Business is Personal</title>
		<link>http://davemorin.com/blog/gin-television-and-the-social-surplus/comment-page-1/#comment-55462</link>
		<dc:creator>Improving the conversation &#124; Business is Personal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Aug 2008 10:24:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] guest post (I&#8217;m in a canoe, remember?) is a video of a talk by Clay Shirky at Web 2.0 Expo (a conference). Transcript is here if you prefer to read rather than [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] guest post (I&#8217;m in a canoe, remember?) is a video of a talk by Clay Shirky at Web 2.0 Expo (a conference). Transcript is here if you prefer to read rather than [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Riffey</title>
		<link>http://davemorin.com/blog/gin-television-and-the-social-surplus/comment-page-1/#comment-55455</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Riffey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Aug 2008 23:03:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great talk. 

Lets look for the mouse in Washington. We&#039;ve been locked out of there for decades.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great talk. </p>
<p>Lets look for the mouse in Washington. We&#8217;ve been locked out of there for decades.</p>
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		<title>By: Bonifer</title>
		<link>http://davemorin.com/blog/gin-television-and-the-social-surplus/comment-page-1/#comment-55425</link>
		<dc:creator>Bonifer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 15:14:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Clay&#039;s talk was thought provoking and Max brings up a good point about it, one that bears further exploration.  Knowing that the surplus is there is a fairly obvious idea.  Clay&#039;s talk gives shape and dimension to it, and holds out the promise of all that &#039;unproductive&#039; time turning into productive time.  So we got that goin&#039; for us ; )

But it begs the more crucial question:  How will behaviors change?  

After all, sitting in front of a screen is sitting in front of a screen, whether you&#039;re telling Dora what to do, or whether some screenwriter told her ahead of time.  A mouse click is not that different from a channel change.  Gilligan&#039;s Island molded Clay and he seems not to have suffered because of it.  Maybe the urge to &#039;leave the island&#039; has carried him to his current status.   Perhaps because he had wise parents, good teachers, inspiring mentors, a helpful local librarian -- good human guides of one stripe or another -- he escaped  the basement and DID SOMETHING to change the world. 

I want to know what people are going to DO with the surplus.  (How has behavior changed because of the crime wiki?  Has the Brazilian professor made people safer or more fearful?  That&#039;s the question Clay did not address, one with answers that are more important than the quantitative assessment of efficiency of crimelogging via Google Maps vs. the crimesheet provided by local cops.) 

The new cartography is cool and all, but it is a skeleton.  Flesh and blood and free will and calls to action will be required for the adventure to occur.  A map does not make decisions or choose directions.  People do.

Thanks for the post, Dave!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Clay&#8217;s talk was thought provoking and Max brings up a good point about it, one that bears further exploration.  Knowing that the surplus is there is a fairly obvious idea.  Clay&#8217;s talk gives shape and dimension to it, and holds out the promise of all that &#8216;unproductive&#8217; time turning into productive time.  So we got that goin&#8217; for us ; )</p>
<p>But it begs the more crucial question:  How will behaviors change?  </p>
<p>After all, sitting in front of a screen is sitting in front of a screen, whether you&#8217;re telling Dora what to do, or whether some screenwriter told her ahead of time.  A mouse click is not that different from a channel change.  Gilligan&#8217;s Island molded Clay and he seems not to have suffered because of it.  Maybe the urge to &#8216;leave the island&#8217; has carried him to his current status.   Perhaps because he had wise parents, good teachers, inspiring mentors, a helpful local librarian &#8212; good human guides of one stripe or another &#8212; he escaped  the basement and DID SOMETHING to change the world. </p>
<p>I want to know what people are going to DO with the surplus.  (How has behavior changed because of the crime wiki?  Has the Brazilian professor made people safer or more fearful?  That&#8217;s the question Clay did not address, one with answers that are more important than the quantitative assessment of efficiency of crimelogging via Google Maps vs. the crimesheet provided by local cops.) </p>
<p>The new cartography is cool and all, but it is a skeleton.  Flesh and blood and free will and calls to action will be required for the adventure to occur.  A map does not make decisions or choose directions.  People do.</p>
<p>Thanks for the post, Dave!</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan Kartzke</title>
		<link>http://davemorin.com/blog/gin-television-and-the-social-surplus/comment-page-1/#comment-55414</link>
		<dc:creator>Ryan Kartzke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Jun 2008 00:48:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Awesome video, I really like how Clay was able to give a frame of reference to the audience so they can understand how much time and thought it took to produce WikiPedia versus how much time we waste watching one-way, non-interactive media.  Very compelling!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Awesome video, I really like how Clay was able to give a frame of reference to the audience so they can understand how much time and thought it took to produce WikiPedia versus how much time we waste watching one-way, non-interactive media.  Very compelling!</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Kokanovich</title>
		<link>http://davemorin.com/blog/gin-television-and-the-social-surplus/comment-page-1/#comment-55410</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Kokanovich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jun 2008 05:14:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with Max that human hours are not fungible, but I love the idea of a cognitive surplus and agree with Dave that Clay&#039;s talk is absolute genius.

Dave&#039;s own remarks this evening during a Web 2.0 Strategy panel discussion were thought provoking and inspiring.

Thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Max that human hours are not fungible, but I love the idea of a cognitive surplus and agree with Dave that Clay&#8217;s talk is absolute genius.</p>
<p>Dave&#8217;s own remarks this evening during a Web 2.0 Strategy panel discussion were thought provoking and inspiring.</p>
<p>Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: ConnectMe Networks</title>
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		<dc:creator>ConnectMe Networks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jun 2008 02:02:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Can I Borrow You For A Moment? The New Cognitive Surplus...&lt;/strong&gt;

I&#039;ve had a lot of conversations recently about crowdsourcing - using web tools to engage the public (or other large groups) to solve problems. Jeremiah Owyang of Forrester Research provides an example of how crowdsourcing helped improve a conference s...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Can I Borrow You For A Moment? The New Cognitive Surplus&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>I&#8217;ve had a lot of conversations recently about crowdsourcing &#8211; using web tools to engage the public (or other large groups) to solve problems. Jeremiah Owyang of Forrester Research provides an example of how crowdsourcing helped improve a conference s&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Justin Smith</title>
		<link>http://davemorin.com/blog/gin-television-and-the-social-surplus/comment-page-1/#comment-55407</link>
		<dc:creator>Justin Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jun 2008 08:07:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Man, this is inspiring.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Man, this is inspiring.</p>
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		<title>By: Thomas Edwards</title>
		<link>http://davemorin.com/blog/gin-television-and-the-social-surplus/comment-page-1/#comment-55404</link>
		<dc:creator>Thomas Edwards</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 May 2008 16:45:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think that the social space will explode once people figure out how to work with it and make it big.

It&#039;s good to see you back, hopefully you can make some more posts in the future. I&#039;m trying to do everyday and it&#039;s tough, even when you do have things going on in your life.

Oh, by the way, congratulations on your continuous successes!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that the social space will explode once people figure out how to work with it and make it big.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s good to see you back, hopefully you can make some more posts in the future. I&#8217;m trying to do everyday and it&#8217;s tough, even when you do have things going on in your life.</p>
<p>Oh, by the way, congratulations on your continuous successes!</p>
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		<title>By: knackeredhack</title>
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		<dc:creator>knackeredhack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 May 2008 13:58:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Max, I think more people will participate as they get more familiar with how.  This is very much an early stage still, and there are plenty of creative individuals of all ages who have not felt the need to explore and enjoy what is happening in the social media space yet.  As they do, they will add further diversity.  

I was myself a little put off by the messiness of early Web 2.0 and initially very sceptical as to whether to jump in.  Now I&#039;m involved I still feel very much at the exploration stage because there are so many options.  Twitter for me, and many others I guess, is a new catalyst for forming connections of both different and like-minded people, and was what brought me here.  I&#039;m looking forward to when we start to hear some really big testimonials from that activity.  The way the Chinese earthquake news broke seemed to  foreshadow that something profound is happening.

Dave, thanks for highlighting the talk. It will be of interest to my blog readers too, I&#039;m sure.

Tim</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Max, I think more people will participate as they get more familiar with how.  This is very much an early stage still, and there are plenty of creative individuals of all ages who have not felt the need to explore and enjoy what is happening in the social media space yet.  As they do, they will add further diversity.  </p>
<p>I was myself a little put off by the messiness of early Web 2.0 and initially very sceptical as to whether to jump in.  Now I&#8217;m involved I still feel very much at the exploration stage because there are so many options.  Twitter for me, and many others I guess, is a new catalyst for forming connections of both different and like-minded people, and was what brought me here.  I&#8217;m looking forward to when we start to hear some really big testimonials from that activity.  The way the Chinese earthquake news broke seemed to  foreshadow that something profound is happening.</p>
<p>Dave, thanks for highlighting the talk. It will be of interest to my blog readers too, I&#8217;m sure.</p>
<p>Tim</p>
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